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Old 01-08-2017, 01:49 PM   #1
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Default Test Drove the NEW Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio

Looked at, and "test drove" the first Alfa QV to show up in central Ohio yesterday. I could write a full page on my short experience with the car but I'll save you the reading time. Overall, I was pretty impressed (as a current '16 M3 ZCP owner) and I think it'll make the performance-sedan class more interesting moving forward. One major problem I already see is availability. This dealer said they may only get 2 QV's this entire year and that there's currently no plan to offer leasing for the performance model Giulia.

Personally, I would probably swap my M3 out for it right now if my payment remained the same. It offers just about everything my BMW already has, plus/minus a few performance advantages, all in a more unique and quirky package. Who knows, I might just be driving one of these, 1LE, or Corvette GS by the end of summer!









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Old 01-09-2017, 09:52 AM   #2
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There will plenty of these to go around. If they don't Alfa will gone from the U.S. again. They have a years worth of 4C's laying around they can't sell.
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I'm definitely a fan of this car, even if it's not offered in a stick.

Crazy that there won't be too many of these available initially. I'm sure the used market will be well-populated once these come off lease 2-3 years from now.

Aaron, my vote would be the GS Corvette. In both C6 and C7 versions I think the performance/price value is top of the market.
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That's a sweet looking car. I dig the body styling.
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We had a "regular" Giulia diesel 6-speed manual as a rental while we were in Europe last week. Put over 2500km on the car in 8 days and came away with mixed emotions. I'd like to drive the QV but based on the regular car I'm not going to be buying one anytime soon.

#1 - This is a fantastic looking car, and it gets looks from EVERYONE, everywhere that you go. I literally had 3 completely random parking lot conversations about this car it was that popular.

What I will give to the car is the chassis is WAY better than I expected it to be. It stuck much better than anticipated on the German back roads around the Nurburbring where I got to really give it some exercise. I didn't dare take it on the ring itself but the roads surrounding the ring are pretty darn good an there's no police out there either.

I still don't own a car with electric power steering and I'm still not a huge fan of any of them that I've driven. I had a weird experience with both the 228i rental we had at the ring and the Giulia...if you'd enter a turn hot and really try to trail brake the car to get the front to stick it'd sense the extra steering load on the front wheels and over-boost the steering causing a really weird sensation.

The brakes in the standard car were also very good but HORRIBLY over-boosted from a power assistance standpoint. You couldn't modulate the brakes or heel-toe smoothly because of how overly sensative the brake pedal was.

Interior wasn't really a complaint for me, I had no issues with it. Wheel is nice, controls are where they need to be.

The electronics package for the car was bad in my opinion. I couldn't find a way to default all of the driver aids to off which means I had to manually turn everything off when I started the car. The proximity sensors would go ballistic if the wind blew the wrong direction. The stop start was meh....the land departure stuff was annoying. Twice on the Autobahn the collision detection system slammed on the brakes for me as I was changing lanes into the fast lane causing me to be in an uncomfortable situation while traffic was bearing down on me.

For some reason every time you start the car all of the radio /etc defaults to completely off...so you have to turn on the radio every time you start driving the car. The NAV wouldn't re-calculate until you were REALLY far off the beaten road. In Germany they love to just randomly close roads and when you try to find an alternative route for the first 10 miles or so all the car wants you to do is do a U turn and go back to where the closed road was.

I think this is a sign that I'm getting old but all the electronics in the car really took away from the driving experience.

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You couldn't modulate the brakes or heel-toe smoothly because of how overly sensative the brake pedal was.
This is my issue with my 330i - I like my old '89 Civics HB brake pedal feel - very stiff.
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We had a "regular" Giulia diesel 6-speed manual as a rental while we were in Europe last week. Put over 2500km on the car in 8 days and came away with mixed emotions. I'd like to drive the QV but based on the regular car I'm not going to be buying one anytime soon.

#1 - This is a fantastic looking car, and it gets looks from EVERYONE, everywhere that you go. I literally had 3 completely random parking lot conversations about this car it was that popular.

What I will give to the car is the chassis is WAY better than I expected it to be. It stuck much better than anticipated on the German back roads around the Nurburbring where I got to really give it some exercise. I didn't dare take it on the ring itself but the roads surrounding the ring are pretty darn good an there's no police out there either.

I still don't own a car with electric power steering and I'm still not a huge fan of any of them that I've driven. I had a weird experience with both the 228i rental we had at the ring and the Giulia...if you'd enter a turn hot and really try to trail brake the car to get the front to stick it'd sense the extra steering load on the front wheels and over-boost the steering causing a really weird sensation.

The brakes in the standard car were also very good but HORRIBLY over-boosted from a power assistance standpoint. You couldn't modulate the brakes or heel-toe smoothly because of how overly sensative the brake pedal was.

Interior wasn't really a complaint for me, I had no issues with it. Wheel is nice, controls are where they need to be.

The electronics package for the car was bad in my opinion. I couldn't find a way to default all of the driver aids to off which means I had to manually turn everything off when I started the car. The proximity sensors would go ballistic if the wind blew the wrong direction. The stop start was meh....the land departure stuff was annoying. Twice on the Autobahn the collision detection system slammed on the brakes for me as I was changing lanes into the fast lane causing me to be in an uncomfortable situation while traffic was bearing down on me.

For some reason every time you start the car all of the radio /etc defaults to completely off...so you have to turn on the radio every time you start driving the car. The NAV wouldn't re-calculate until you were REALLY far off the beaten road. In Germany they love to just randomly close roads and when you try to find an alternative route for the first 10 miles or so all the car wants you to do is do a U turn and go back to where the closed road was.

I think this is a sign that I'm getting old but all the electronics in the car really took away from the driving experience.
Andy, that's pretty awesome to hear you got to put some miles of one of these! I tend to agree with just about everything you said (based on my very limited experience with the car).

The Giulia has brake-by-wire I believe. Brake "feel" has been a common compliant in the reviews I've seen so far. Somewhere I read that if you engage ABS in RACE mode it'll even re-activate the stability controls, but I'm not sure if that's true or not.

Electronic steering, and feel? haha..Out of the box, my Lexus probably had the best feel of any modern car I've driven in recent memory. The Cayman 718, Macan GTS, M3, all seem to lack feel. Actually the new Camaro was decent I suppose.

I didn't mess with the electronics too much, but your observations seem about right. I could probably live with the UI without issue though, seemed like a cheap-knockoff version of idrive.

Chassis is good, better than the current BMWs, but I would like to go back and drive a regular Giulia to see how the car feels with the standard suspension and engine.

The one thing that still worries me is the reliability, specifically the issues with the electronics a lot of people seems to be having so far. The car have been around in EU for a while, so there's no excuse for warning lights, malfunctions after a year of mass production.

Lastly, I've seen (3) standard Giulia's around town with temp. tags including one up at Honda R&D and one in my neighborhood just last week! That makes me happy. I want these types of cars to exist and fill driveways. Seeing thousands of BMWs and Hondas gets old!
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I'm smitten with the Quadrifoglio. One of the few things I'd trade my M5 for - but I'll have to way 8-10 years for the depreciation to kick in...
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