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Old 05-25-2014, 06:43 PM   #21
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I saw no less than 20 copson a stretch of road coming up to DC this weekend. Multiple just lined up and ready. You can argue its to keep the motorways safe but Its just the way they make the cash. Everyone has a job in this world.
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Old 05-25-2014, 07:00 PM   #22
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you want to talk about profiling... I've been pulled over for not signaling into a turn lane at a stop light.
that's not profiling...... as well as the OP's case

in both you guys' cases, you did in fact do something illegal and got picked out..... Profiling is when a cop picks you out to harass you when you haven't done anything, but simply look like you could

simple as that......jeez
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Old 05-25-2014, 10:36 PM   #23
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I think it's time for an Escort.... not the kinda that can get you in trouble when it's really a cop but the helpful kinda that finds cops. (LINKY)

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I bet I drove more than anybody else this weekend and saw fewer cops than about all of you. I drove to North Carolina, back up and then to Indy for the 500 and back. I only saw like 4 cops. Saw a bunch driving the other way in West Virginia, but only 4 sitting with radar guns out.

If you don't want cops to notice you, get a car that nobody notices.
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We were driving through the Canton area this morning on 77 North and OSP had about 5 or 6 cars in rotation shooting cars for speed and chasing them down near the Arlington Road exit. This is not a good weekend to press the speed envelope :-)
Yes! We got on 77 north near Belden Village at about 9:15 Sunday morning to take the kids to the Thomas the Tank Engine event at Boston Mills. They were out in full force.

I happened to notice one of the new Explorers with the low- pro light bar behind me. Someone in a newer CR -V came along my left side going well over 65. The patrol gave chase and followed, but never flicked on the lights. I actually lost sight of them.
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........If you don't want cops to notice you, get a car that nobody notices.
Like a bone stock Beige 528iT driving in the right lane?
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Old 05-28-2014, 06:47 PM   #27
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I don't have to worry about profiling in my 740iL... most drivers of them are over social security age lol.... loud red m3 with supercharger whine, different story.


ETA: If i was a cop I would profile everyone... especially riced out hondas.
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Laser and radar are point at and shoot. It all comes down to who the cop aims at. In a group it's often the lead car, unless something catches his/her eye. A White BMW with arrest-me-red wheels is certain to catch attention. Just like my loud, fire spitting rx-8 was, or my low m3 with a louder sc whine than the exhaust would. Like mentioned before, it's not profiling, it's just unwanted attention. If your car stands out in a crowd, it's gonna get pointed at. It's human nature. Heck, sometimes your just in the car that had the least obstructed line of sight.
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Laser and radar are point at and shoot. It all comes down to who the cop aims at. In a group it's often the lead car, unless something catches his/her eye. A White BMW with arrest-me-red wheels is certain to catch attention. Just like my loud, fire spitting rx-8 was, or my low m3 with a louder sc whine than the exhaust would. Like mentioned before, it's not profiling, it's just unwanted attention. If your car stands out in a crowd, it's gonna get pointed at. It's human nature. Heck, sometimes your just in the car that had the least obstructed line of sight.
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Old 05-28-2014, 10:40 PM   #31
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I've been pulled over 4 times in six months in the kent area, 3 by state troopers once my local PD. Each time they asked to search my vehicle. the violations included.

-One of my license plate bulbs being burnt out (other one was fine.)
-Once for not signaling (it was right when the lane began @ 1:30am and no traffic)
-Brake light, I understand that one.
-High beams on in unneeded conditions.

The high beams I didn't consent to search, got a ticket. The other three I did, no ticket, found nothing.

Btw Exit 118 to 120 on 77N is asking for a ticket.
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Old 05-29-2014, 12:02 PM   #32
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Absolutely they profile by vehicle. Some because of high theft rates. Some because of the construction of the car makes it perfect for drug smugling. Some because of the demographic of the typical owner. Any car that says hard driving, agressive drivers, youthful inexperience (and judgement) is a prime target. Mod it out and it makes you even more of a target. You where profiled.

You can have a heavily modified racer for the street and get profiled in a positive light. I had my Cobra (think 427 AC variety) for years. The car was a moving violation. One glance at the car they could have pulled me over any time they wanted. No front license plate. Exhaust so loud it could be heard a mile away and set off every alarm in parking garages. For years I ran it on racing slicks, no tread at all, on all four corners. I drove it like that through many a state on public roads. The only interaction I had in the entire time with police is them wanting me to do a burn out, go for a ride or just check it out. I have had uniformed CPD and OHP encourage illegal behavior in that car.

Yes, they do profile.
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Old 05-29-2014, 12:59 PM   #33
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So, as an owner of a write-me-up red M3, I can tell you that all cops I pass make eye contact if they are looking around. It is what it is. However, the other issue is just being in Ohio. I picked my car up in Atlanta GA a few weeks ago. I never saw a cop in GA or TN. I saw one that was helping a broke-down motorist in KY. Then I saw 4 between the bridge in Cinci and my exit (38). OH just sucks for cops. It is how they generate revenue and it is painfully obvious. So, as much as it pains me, I spend most of the time on the highway with my cruise set at 73...
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I've been lucky. I haven't been pulled over since 1992 when I was clocked doing 92 in a 55 on I-75 near Williamstown KY. Never pulled over in CA in the 8 years I lived there (was doing 95 in a 65 when. CHP in a Mustang pulled up next to me and waved, then blew by me going 120 or so). I guess I've had under the radar cars (Mazdaspeed6, RX8) since moving back from CA. So far lucky with the 135i and I never go near the speed limit anymore. I'm sure my luck will run out this summer.

Hopefully OH goes to one plate since I haven't had one on any of my cars (except the Mazda SUV) since 2006.
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Old 05-29-2014, 01:39 PM   #35
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Anyone else ever get profiled out for having an nice/expensive/modded car??

I got a ticket this morning on the way to work, I was going 81 in a 70 (according to the police officer) I was traveling on the turn pike and in a 3 lane wide section with plenty of room; I was traveling in a group of vehicles in which we all were speeding...but he turned his lights on and picked me out of the group to pull over.

General stuff ensued (license/registration/proof of ins) and then he asked why I was speeding, I said late for work (which was true)--he responds with "Well I'm going to give you a citation then so you can tell your boss a jerk cop made you late"

I get that yes I was truly speeding and yes I technically was deserving of the ticket, I'll pay it and move on with my life, but its the point that my car was targeted.

I've been pulled over 19 times in my life (10 years of driving) and up until I had the 135i, I didn't have a ticket cited and I was going faster than anything I've done in the 1 series (well, anything I've been caught for)

I would say mods are the biggest magnet for cops. They assume mods = young, young = stupid/reckless, reckless/stupid = easy ticket without hassle if you had to go to court.

Considering I think what you were trying to ask is:

Everyone was speeding at roughly the same rate, so what was the rationale in pulling over you over and not another car.

I would say yes, the tiebreaker is your car stands out and chances are its an easier time for the cop.

The bottom line is, buy a Valentine One and use it. You probably just paid for half of it with your ticket!

People are animals, and given the scenario I think he took the low hanging fruit/injured gazelle.

(side note, was it a State highway patrolman that ticketed you? I believe they are the only people with jurisdiction on the toll roads)

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I saw no less than 20 copson a stretch of road coming up to DC this weekend. Multiple just lined up and ready. You can argue its to keep the motorways safe but Its just the way they make the cash. Everyone has a job in this world.
Well, I would argue that radar/laser (evidence) is the main reason they go for "speeders" so much (besides your point that it is to make easy money). There are clearly far more dangerous drivers and actions than speeding at 80/70 75/65, etc but that is the low hanging fruit for cops because they just hold-up a computer output of the speed and you are dead in the water 99% of the time less a technicality.

I marvel at how a cop can sleep at night thinking they are actually making a difference by being nothing more than a speed-ticketing hatchet man for the local coffers.

Excessive policing repels people from wanting to frequent the area (I'm sure some will argue the opposite) and creates a bad sentiment with cops among people who are no of the hardcore criminal element.

The bottom line is the cars are getting faster, more stable, handling better, etc and the speed limits are not adjusted in accordance and creates an even easier time for them and harder one for civilians.

I consider myself a spirited driver and usually I am grasping the wheel with two hands, radio off, scanning the traffic for morons and abrupt/erratic movements from people, which in my eyes outweighs any small overage in speed limits.

If a cop hits me with radar all of this is meaningless and I am just a common speeder to be ticketed. However, some dopes with their phones out, putting on makeup, making sudden lane changes, eating, singing and gyrating, driving damaged/unstable vehicles, etc are just overlooked if they are going at or under the speed limit because the cop is only really looking for one crime.

Who would you rather share the road with?
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Even if a cop is using laser he still has to have LOV on you, which means you are also able to see him. Look up guys!
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I spoke with a judge friend of mine who handles OHP cases in his court. He wouldn't give me the lowdown on what exactly would get you off a ticket if you challenge it in court, but I mentioned a few things like calibration of the radar unit, training certification, weather conditions, traffic in the area (reflectance/interference) which probably will piss off the cop if they decide to show up in court, but if they're unprepared (most likely OHP knows the drill) it could get you out of a big bucks ticket. Then again, it might be worse. He told me polite and prepared goes a long way.
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I spoke with a judge friend of mine who handles OHP cases in his court. He wouldn't give me the lowdown on what exactly would get you off a ticket if you challenge it in court, but I mentioned a few things like calibration of the radar unit, training certification, weather conditions, traffic in the area (reflectance/interference) which probably will piss off the cop if they decide to show up in court, but if they're unprepared (most likely OHP knows the drill) it could get you out of a big bucks ticket. Then again, it might be worse. He told me polite and prepared goes a long way.
The problem isn't getting off, I've used that tactic before (calibration logs) and won, but it is missing a day of work.

It's completely ridiculous to have to appear in court with such rigid times for low level offenses. If they had a Saturday traffic court, I think you would see a lot of people contest tickets. However, the cop gets paid to show up and you do not.

But if I have to decide between a $200+/- ticket and missing a day of work (or blowing a vacation day) it rarely makes fiscal sense to take off work and also risk still getting the ticket after making your case in court.

Unless I am deeply offended by the circumstances of the ticketing, I usually bit the bullet and roll my eyes.

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Even if a cop is using laser he still has to have LOV on you, which means you are also able to see him. Look up guys!
Just to throw it out there, you CAN successfully block 'laser' targeting with front mounted absorption materials AND it is LEGAL.

However, jamming a radar is never legal and that is why you get a V1 or Escort, which work like a charm.
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