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Old 03-30-2015, 05:58 PM   #1
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Alright, I'm redoing pads and rotors this season for my 1995 e36 m3 coupe.

Goal: Autox toy that is still lightly daily driven. Dust isn't a huge issue, sound isn't a huge priority either, I just want something that'll perform well and last more than a season. It'll be 95% Autox so heat isn't a /huge/ issue but if I hit a track day I'd rather not die.

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Old 03-30-2015, 07:32 PM   #2
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I hear good things about stoptech street performance pads. What sort of tires are you running? I've faded all sorts of non-race pads on a track, but I don't think anybody fades anything at an autox.
If you're going to track it, invest in real race pads. If it's a single track day, you can probably get away with a high spec street pad. I've done that several times with varying levels of success. All the best pads are metallic compounds, avoid ceramic.
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Performance Friction Z rated pads - love them.
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Tires are RE11a's. I've never had an issue with fade, but I'd like to keep it that way.

So I'm at Performance Friction Z Rated pads, or StopTech Street Performance. I will research those and compare on my own time.

As far as rotors, I've always heard stock blanks are the bees knees... can I get a what what! Or a What? What?
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Drilled rotors do nothing. Slots eat pads faster. Blanks are great.
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So, here's the issue....

There is not a 'magic pad' that you can Daily, Autocross, AND Take to the track (without brake fade)

There are some that are close, but I would spend the extra money (since I know you can swap brake pads yourself) and buy a decent set of track pads, and then a set for DD/Autocross.

If you want to get your monies worth from a Track Day, then don't buy pads that will only let you go 6-7/10's once brake fade comes along. When you're on track you get into a rhythm and you want to keep that rhythm for the whole 20-30 minutes that you're out there. You have enough to worry about (Mid-Ohio) trying to get a car to go from 120-130 down to 60-70 for a turn without thinking in the back of your mind that your brakes won't grab and you're now sitting on China Beach, which in the long run, will cost you (possibly) more money than it would have been to just buy a decent set of track pads.....

That's my unsolicited advice on that......

For pad recommendations for DD/Autox:

PFC Z's
HP+ (some don't like, but I have used and liked them in years past)
Ferodo DS2500 (I run those now)

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Hawk DTC60 or DTC70
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Pagid Orange (or today's equivalent - haven't used those for a while, but were awesome when I did)
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If you want to get your monies worth from a Track Day, then don't buy pads that will only let you go 6-7/10's once brake fade comes along. When you're on track you get into a rhythm and you want to keep that rhythm for the whole 20-30 minutes that you're out there. You have enough to worry about (Mid-Ohio) trying to get a car to go from 120-130 down to 60-70 for a turn without thinking in the back of your mind that your brakes won't grab and you're now sitting on China Beach, which in the long, will cost you (possibly) more money than it would have been to just buy a decent set of track pads.....

That's my unsolicited advice on that......
x2 this. Even on stock pads you'll hit the limit very fast, and it's just another source of stress in those first couple track days. You might not utilize the track pads to their fullest, but that's ok because you won't need to worry about fade.
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Excellent points gentlemen. When I find my self financially set to visit a track I will invest in a dedicate track brake pad, this seems to be the best way to handle it.

As far as my DD/Autox pads I appreciate all the recommendations! All I really needed was some stuff to compare, which is what I've got now.

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Ordered the PFC Z+'s and blank rotors.. thanks all!
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What was the best deal you found? Looking to redo the brakes on my 'vert sometime soon. I certainly respect Kale and the rest of the OBc contributiors' opinions and now am looking at the DD/Autox options...
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Hawk HPS pads. A little squeal, but great compromise for street!
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I got a full set of pads/rotors for the m for $400 shipped from bimmerworld. And they even threw in a few dozen stickers because swagyolo
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I got a full set of pads/rotors for the m for $400 shipped from bimmerworld. And they even threw in a few dozen stickers because swagyolo
Did you get the free license plate frame???!!! Adds at least +10 hp
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Did you get the free license plate frame???!!! Adds at least +10 hp
I FORGOT!!!!!!!
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I FORGOT!!!!!!!
How's everybody at C&C supposed to know that you are #racecar now?

For realsies I would call and get the free t-shirt at least!
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How's everybody at C&C supposed to know that you are #racecar now?

For realsies I would call and get the free t-shirt at least!
Free shirt? I honestly have never heard of that, this is my first experience with that sight.
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They got a deal right now if you order more than $250 you get a free t-shirt. Should be able to call or email them and grab it!
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I wish CSL brakes were that cheap. Don't buy an e86 m coupe if you don't like spending big money on brake parts. Or exhaust parts, or engine parts. Actually, just don't buy one if you don't want to spend lots of money on it.
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Can't believe I reported the same thing....

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